Courageous Conversations About Our Schools Podcast

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When the Left and Right Actually Listen: Rick Hess and Pedro Noguera (Ep. 55)

This podcast is about courage - courage to listen to people we don’t agree with, courage to challenge our own friends.

In this episode, host Ken Futernick speaks with two influential education thinkers from opposite sides of the political spectrum about their book A Search for Common Ground: Conversations About the Toughest Questions in K-12 Education. Instead of trying to win arguments on issues like school choice, standardized testing, or how history should be taught, they set out to listen and see what they could learn from one another.

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Why Pushing Harder Makes People Resist More — with Elena Aguilar (Ep. 54)

In this fascinating and surprisingly practical conversation, acclaimed author and educator Elena Aguilar challenges much of what we assume about people who resist change. Drawing on her new book, How to Coach Resistance, she explains why resistance often has less to do with stubbornness or unwillingness to change than with fear, frustration, and unmet fundamental human needs.

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An Alternative to “Knock it Off!” when Students Fight (Ep. 52)

In this episode of “Courageous Conversations about our Schools,” host Ken Futernick talks with educator and interpreter Shelby Rideout about a simple, in-the-moment strategy for handling kid conflicts without defaulting to “Knock it off,” “Go to your room,” or forced apologies. Instead of sending kids away to “work it out” without tools, Shelby guides them to pause, lower the emotional temperature, and actively look for what they have in common.

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